Maile hears back from an agent and the interaction doesn't lead to tears. But there are tears later when Shawn and Maile go out to eat so that Maile can talk about her struggles with motherhood and creativity.
How do we hold the good and the hard together?
How can we help each other lift the burdens that we bear so that we have more space for creativity?
As an added bonus, one of the Smucker children unexpectedly interrupts the podcast to let his parents know he's going to poop.
All in all, a good episode.
