In episode 11 of The OCD Stories podcast I interviewed Jeff Bell & Shala Nicely. Jeff and Shala have a personal and professional journey with OCD, and have come together to create Beyond The Doubt.
Show notes:
Shala & Jeff's OCD story (2:10)
What worked other then ERP/CBT? (14:20)
The importance of meaning (17:10)
Seeing the Universe as friendly (22:45)
Power of personal responsibility (26:30)
How to deal with dull looming anxiety (38:00)
“The only way to effectively manage uncertainty, is to embrace uncertainty?” (32:30)
Advice for conquering ERP (41:40)
The ultimate goal for OCD recovery (46:30)
Shala's advice for changing careers and becoming a therapist (49:20)
The purpose behind BeyondTheDoubt.com (56:30)
The one piece of advice (59:30)
What Jeff and Shala would have on their billboard (1:01:00)
Find out more about Chris and Kelly:
Beyond The Doubt - BeyondTheDoubt.com
Shala's website - ShalaNicely.com
Jeff's initiative - Adversity to Advocacy
Jeff's books: Rewind, replay, repeat (Amazon.co.uk/Amazon.com) & When in doubt, make belief (Amazon.co.uk/Amazon.com)
Resources mentioned:
Viktor Frankl's book Man's search for meaning (Amazon.co.uk / Amazon.com)
Tamar Chansky's book Freeing Your Child from Obsessive-compulsive Disorder (Amazom.co.uk/Amazon.com)
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