Legendary manager and producer George Shapiro joins Adam to talk George's new documentary If You're Not in the Obit, Eat Breakfast. Adam and George chat about the spark of talent that very few have and the work it requires to light that spark. They then chat about the differences between the academic and business world compared to the creative. They then talk about George's life in the Bronx and P.S. 80, the public school that birthed legends like Howard West, Gary Marshall and George himself. Finally, George and Adam talk about the necessary steps to embrace sadness and how that is one of the keys to a happy life.
