In this week's extended podcast we delve into the ongoing crisis of democracy in Catalonia and the Tory Party conference in Manchester.
Lesley strips away the "playing for sympathy" card of the Conservative apologists and focuses on May's policies and the reaction to them amongst delegates.
I fling in my midgie magnet analogy and we both speculate on Boris and Ruth's ambitions.
By way of Nick Robinson's moan on the role of new media outlets undermining trust in the BBC we try and make sense of what's happening in Catalonia.
Lesley previews her upcoming trip to Iceland for the Arctic Circles conference.
I shamelessly plug Dundee Wanderers Hockey club.
And we both take credit for Scotland's last gasp win v Slovakia.