You have to do what you love and find happiness in your work and life. If you're working to get rich and retire or to buy a nice watch so that you can hide your insecurities, you will lose. Happiness is the ultimate goal. If you're not happy, the rest doesn't matter. This meeting with Xianlimm is super interesting, because I talk a lot about how I transitioned from building a business, to building my brand and then combining the two, and figuring out the balance that you need in your life.