Last night was Halloween but there's no trick or treating in this all genuine, all traditional, Scottish podcast.
Lesley turns her gimlet gaze on Scotland's less than glorious witch hunting past and explodes some myths.
I chip in with a wee bit on the roots of Samhain and memories of the 1950s.
We both reflect on what the witch hunts of the 17th century mean to modern Scottish society.
Lesley's recent column in the National on the People's Vote, sparked by Pete Wishart's warnings over it, has certainly sparked some debate. She considers not only the importance of the vote itself for the cause of independence but also how the decision by Nicola Sturgeon to support it was apparently taken.
The next section on the changing nature of the UK tax system and income inequality is all the fault of Iain McWhirter. As he's done to Lesley so often, he got in first with what I was going to say. So, blame him!
Finally, it's hats off to Stuart Cosgrove and the team for bringing C4's new Creative Hub to Glasgow.