Dave and Nephi are joined by the leaders of State Outdoor Recreation Offices; Tom Adams (UT), Rachel VandeVoort (MT), and Domenic Bravo (WY) prior to their presentation at the Western Governor's Association Winter Meeting. Topics include: what state outdoor recreation offices do; how we expand and enhance the outdoor recreation economy; building coalitions; using an area to death, funding resource management; growing the outdoor recreation economy too fast; keeping Coloradans out of Wyoming, and a host of other interesting tidbits.