At WordCamp Orange County, Nathan Ingram participated in a unique business track discussion about failure, something with which most entrepreneurs are intimately familiar. Immediately after his talk, Nathan sat down with Mark for this interview. The conversation goes deep fast, as both Mark and Nathan share their thoughts about being an entrepreneur and how "the best lessons in life are learned from failure." Nathan recently lost 50 pounds in two months and he talks about the micro-habits that he leveraged to make big successful changes with his health. This unique, honest and heartfelt interview has a number of lessons for those of us looking to optimize our business processes and find better balance in life.