On this week's podcast, Paul is joined by Rio Grande Foundation scholar and summer intern Raul Ayala to interview Don Watkins, Director of Education at the Center for Industrial Progress. The Center is a pro-energy think tank headed up by Alex Epstein. Watkins comes at the issues from a Randian/Objectivist perspective and used to work at the Ayn Rand Institute. Raul and Paul discuss a number of topics with Don including the importance of energy freedom, New Mexico's lack of free markets, and the philosophical underpinnings of his work.