Long-life adventurer and owner of Zion Guru, Jonathan Zambella, joins us to share his wisdom on how we can all apply sound decision making and mindfulness practices whether you're canyoneering or headed into the board room. Charlie and Jonathan discuss the messiness of leadership, and how those failures and imperfections are exactly what we need in order to handle and thrive in every type of scenario the universe hands us whether that is a pandemic or starting your own company.