Jim Babka, President of DownsizeDC.org, joins David Gornoski to talk about the increasing polarization and politicization in our culture. There is far too much shaming going on, Jim Babka says, but what we need today is empathy. "We have turned away from God and replaced Him with idols; and the number one idol is the state." The conversation moves towards the anthropological implications of Jesus' story in our culture today. What makes people default to statism whenever a crisis appears? David argues that we must get to the root of Jesus' revealed anthropology if we are to come across a better understanding of our society and what we can do to love our neighbors.
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