Shawn admits to Maile that, unbeknownst to her, he did apply for their family to move to New Zealand. He gushes about a book he's currently reading (although he's not sure he's allowed to talk about it). Maile's recent delight is parenting the youngest two.
But what they really dig into is the old saying, "Write what you know"...and how to decide how much more you need to learn about something before writing about it.
A few of the topics discussed:
Sean Dietrich (aka Sean of the South) Anthony Doerr's All the Light We Cannot See