Zubair Torwali is a community activist, linguist and educator based in Bahrain, Pakistan who has sought to preserve and promote Pakistan's Dardic cultures and languages. He has authored and supervised a number of books in and about Torwali. In this episode, he speaks with Elizabeth Dykstra-McCarthy about hydropower development in the Swat valley, its impact on the indigenous Torwali people and how the local community have responded to it.