AJE - Valuing Transformative Leadership in Real-World “Living Systems”

This conversation with John Atkinson and David Nabarro is one of a 5-part International Evaluation Podcast series sponsored by the American Evaluation Association and the American Journal of Evaluation. Zenda Ofir and Deborah Rugg interview John and David about their article on transformative leadership in "living systems." Their article can be accessed in Volume 42, Issue 1 of the AJE.