Jacqueline Allen Trimble shares her personal story of being adopted and raised by multiple mothers. She discusses her family's history of owning land in Tuskegee, Alabama, and the influence of strong women in her life. Trimble also talks about the importance of education and the role of Tuskegee Institute in empowering black people. She reflects on the strategies black people used to navigate oppressive spaces and the expectation of being exceptional. Trimble shares her experience as the only black student in a predominantly white school and the support she received from her classmates. She concludes by discussing the racial dynamics that changed in her neighborhood and the challenges she faced at a different school. The conversation explores the topic of racism and prejudice in the South, highlighting the need for honest conversations and self-reflection. It discusses the myths and misconceptions surrounding slavery and the Civil War, emphasizing the importance of teaching accurate history. The conversation also touches on the unique aspects of Southern hospitality and the sense of community that exists in the South. It concludes with a discussion on the complexities of racism and the need for ongoing self-awareness and growth. In this conversation, Jacqueline Allen Trimble discusses the impact of racism on her personal life and the broader economic system. She shares examples of systemic racism, such as the appraisal of her daughter's house and the illegal search of her husband's vehicle. Trimble emphasizes the importance of differentiating between individual prejudices and racism as a systemic issue. She also discusses the power of poetry as a tool for revolution and truth-telling. Trimble believes that poetry compresses the truth and can be a powerful way to connect with others and challenge societal norms. Keywords - adoption, family history, land ownership, strong women, education, Tuskegee Institute, navigating oppression, exceptionalism, racial dynamics, racism, prejudice, South, slavery, Civil War, accurate history, Southern hospitality, community, racism, systemic racism, economic system, individual prejudices, poetry, revolution, truth-telling takeaways The story of Jacqueline Allen Trimble's adoption and the influence of multiple mothers in her life The significance of land ownership in Tuskegee, Alabama, and the role of strong women in her family The strategies black people used to navigate oppressive spaces and the expectation of being exceptional Trimble's experience as the only black student in a predominantly white school and the support she received from her classmates The racial dynamics that changed in her neighborhood and the challenges she faced at a different school Racism and prejudice are prevalent issues that need to be addressed honestly and openly. Teaching accurate history, including the realities of slavery and the Civil War, is crucial for understanding the past. Southern hospitality is rooted in a history of cheap labor and communal living. The South is not the sole source of racism; it exists throughout the country. Acknowledging personal biases and working towards growth and self-awareness is essential in combating racism. Racism is a systemic issue that affects individuals economically and in various other ways. It is important to differentiate between individual prejudices and racism as a systemic issue. Poetry is a powerful tool for revolution and truth-telling, as it compresses the truth and connects people on a deeper level. Sound Bites "Who are your people?" "That's some real love right there." "Tuskegee University is a producer of black middle class and upper class people still to this day." "That's not true. That's a myth." "They were singing because they were trying to stay alive." "That's kind of been the thing for 400 years." "The appraiser's coming over. Go take down all the black art and pictures." "Last week, my husband, 66 years old, was pulled over by some cops... engaged in an illegal search of his vehicle." "It's important for us to differentiate between our prejudices and bias and racism, which is a system, an economic system." Chapters 00:00Introduction and Background 05:40Family History and Land Ownership 08:56Navigating Oppression and Expectations 17:40Being the Only Black Student in a Predominantly White School 26:32Changing Racial Dynamics and Challenges 28:37Unveiling the Myths: Slavery and the Civil War 32:19Southern Hospitality: A Legacy of Cheap Labor 36:50Embracing Growth and Self-Awareness in the Fight Against Racism 51:16The Impact of Racism on Personal Life and the Economic System 53:23The Power of Poetry for Revolution and Truth-Telling