GETTING TO KNOW RAND PAUL - ABORTION - GOVERNMENT DEPENDENCY FLAT TAX Transcript - 1 year ago. English (Automatic Captions) 0:00 when they're sorta two reasons for minimal government once a Liberty 0:05 argument 0:05 that the more you give up love your wealth in your earnings the less Liberty 0:09 you have fancy wanna minimized government size 0:12 we also on want to minimize government size because efficiency 0:15 as Friedman said nobody spend someone else's money 0:18 as wisely as they spend their own 0:30 you the third above five children rhyme 0:33 love congressman and missus Ron Paul how did you come to your political 0:37 philosophy was disc 0:38 dinner table conversation the whole household when you were a kid 0:41 but my cases by the argument of nature versus nurture 0:44 and I may have had both and a I think we're all born with an instinct 0:50 you know to a individualism in 02 0:53 we grow up in a family and even at my family as a teenager I want it I can 0:57 remember calculating how old I would be in the year two thousand how to be 1:00 completely independent how to make your own decisions 1:03 stay up as late as I want to eat what I want go or I want earn my own money 1:07 I think we all have a little bit of that inside of us maybe some to one degree or 1:12 more arm 1:13 but then there's also the nurture argument in the sense that you know I've 1:16 read most the free-market economists I am A 1:19 you know a student of history and 1:22 what I see is that to I really like to see a government it truly is limited 1:26 you know and and know that our freedom is much more expansive 1:29 okay so let's spend a moment considering what's gone wrong William vocally wrote 1:34 a book 1:35 never enough on the expansion of the welfare state 1:38 and he made his very striking point 1:41 that from 1942 2007 1:44 welfare spending grew at an average annual rate of just over four percent 1:49 this as well incomes growing about 2.4 percent 1:52 the point is that for almost seven decades 1:57 year in and year out under presidents of both parties under congress' a both 2:01 parties 2:02 the federal welfare leviathan has continued to grow and grow and grow 2:07 ronald reagan held back the growth in spending but even he wasn't able to 2:11 cud why what's the political dynamic even welfare reform affected maybe four 2:16 programs at a 2:17 7 near eighty program so was incomplete enough I put it more personal terms and 2:22 I think this is something that can appeal to people across both %uh parties 2:26 and independents as well as that 2:28 if you look like me and you hop out of your truck we ought to be working 2:32 and I think most people believe that we're now registering though more people 2:35 as disabled then we are employing people 2:38 and that's a real problems it's a gradual problem Republicans and 2:41 Democrats have been complicit in this 2:43 but it's growing growing growing in people worried that 2:46 such a great deal dependency you or ultimately drag us down as a country 2:50 and that's where the burden of debt comes and I think there really is a 2:53 burden 2:54 but our message is a more difficult one we need to explain to those who are 2:57 working class in trying to get ahead 3:00 that is burden a big government at all this stuff the government's offering you 3:04 really has unintended consequences are dragging the economy down 3:08 dragging job creation down alright in March you introduced a budget 3:14 that would have eliminated the federal deficit in five years 3:17 you voted against the budget the house and over 3:21 the Paul Ryan put together because although even as you were voting against 3:25 Paul Ryan's 3:26 budget the press was attacking it as to to dramatic shoes were gonna mazing yeah 3:31 right ever that would've reduce the federal deficit over 10 years and Rand 3:34 Paul said not fast enough 3:36 I think we're dragging a lot of the party in the right direction 3:39 ryan's first budget was gonna bounce in 28 years nice come up to 10 years 3:43 you know they're a little bit unrealistic things are going to get rid 3:46 of Obamacare spending but he left in the Obamacare taxes 3:50 so we really think that we need to change in time for a much more dramatic 3:53 change than some other gradual is in our party 3:55 I think we are just have a flat income tax seventeen percent person all 17 4:00 percent corporate 4:01 very few deductions you have a lot less revenue 4:04 this would not be revenue-neutral but I think you'd see an explosion in the 4:08 economy as you left 4:09 all that money into the economy you center here's the first instance if a 4:12 question that comes up 4:13 again and again and again listening to you reading your speeches 4:17 what makes him think he's different and here's the version it 4:20 is the instance right now republicans have been pushing for a flat tax 4:25 since at least 1996 when steve forbes ran for president he didn't win 4:29 if you the one we well and I now so we need to win so that's the point what 4:34 makes you think you're different what makes 4:35 do you see it I'll put it crudely because this is a question that's in the 4:39 air about you is Rand Paul just trying to make a point 4:42 and so so be it let me make a point there's nothing wrong with it it's a 4:45 valid point 4:46 or does he see a political opportunity can he actually get things done 4:50 but see I don't think anybody can sit here and say well I'm different I'm 4:54 gonna be the one on the one st 4:56 that's a little bit presumptuous however I would say that there is a route to 4:59 victory for Republicans nationally 5:02 without diluting our message being for something passionately 5:06 but I think it takes a twist this slightly different you're from out in 5:09 california 5:10 California we say bluish it's a blue sky your 5:13 to bring it back red you have to attract people different than the standard 5:17 cookie-cutter republicans been 5:19 so I am offering some things different in the libertarian twister that 5:23 I think has appealed to both ethnic minorities as well as the youth 5:27 as well as independents it's really a message the gets beyond are just are 5:31 hard-core 5:32 republican was not an aesthetical 21 hardcore republican stand for 5:36 but it is enough for the two est that I think it has a chance to resonate in 5:40 areas where we have not done very well 5:42 alright getting to know Rand Paul I'm just 5:46 briefly go through a few other issues that people get a chance to know where 5:49 you stand Obamacare 5:50 this fall against I 5:53 k done without I but where does it stand this fall 5:57 this thing gets rolled out in a way that finally effects provisions here and 6:01 there have been taking effect this fall 6:03 it'll affect the way millions of americans purchase their health 6:06 insurance Park room in the new york times as the big surprise will be how 6:09 well it works 6:10 know how badly how well this will not be the first time I've disagreed with all 6:14 I what I would say is we fought many different times 6:18 but I'm not giving up the fight we fought and lost original in congress we 6:22 fought again in the presidential Ken 6:24 campaign loss we fought Supreme Court lost narrowly 6:28 and I think was still wrongly decided but 6:31 it we're gonna have one more fight when the bills come due 6:35 initially the federal government's gonna pay for it because that's free 6:38 we know we've heard we have a printing press appears that really doesn't cost 6:41 anything 6:42 but then ultimately the bills are gonna be directed back to state government 6:46 and what they'll find is is it when you offer people a free credit card 6:50 to go get health care that they love it and to use it all the time 6:55 but then it costs so much there's not enough money so the net come back and 6:58 they have to tell you oh no you can't go unless you get 7:01 someone's got to screen you they're going to ration how often you go to the 7:05 doctor 7:05 and then they'll come to the position and say while we were paying you twenty 7:09 dollars a visit 7:10 but there's too many people coming to see you so we have to pay you ten 7:14 dollars a visit 7:15 so they will have to reduce the expenditures what they pay hospitals 7:18 what they pay doctors 7:19 and they were all set to limit access which is another word is rationing 7:23 and the state governments despite all of this will still face bankruptcy 7:27 not just the states like your state like california illinois they're in trouble 7:31 states that are relatively sound are going to face problems with medicaid is 7:35 already a driving force 7:37 towards insolvency the state levels I think this will be one more big fight on 7:40 Obamacare 7:41 misguided state legislative level and when 7:44 this year as the girls I as a bills come due in there I think the state 7:48 the switching over to the state is 2014 but so that maybe 2014 2015 7:53 by for sure but in time for the presidential too I think so I think 7:56 it'll still be a hot topic in 2016 7:58 drugs the economist magazine senator paul has called for the scrapping have 8:02 mandatory minimum sentences 8:04 for nonviolent drug offenders but would not legalize drugs 8:07 I'm what what i think is is that if your kid 8:11 or arm you know one of his friends goes out and gets caught with marijuana 8:15 sticking them in prisons are big mistake so I don't really believe in prayer 8:19 prison sentences for these minor nonviolent drug offenses 8:22 but I'm not willing to go all the way to saying it's a good idea either I think 8:26 people use marijuana all the time lose IQ points I think they lose their drive 8:29 to show up for work 8:31 %uh States gonna make the decision I think ultimately to legalize of 8:34 I am I am for letting states make that decision but I'm not in favor out 8:38 and I want to make sure people know that I'm not encouraging young kids to do 8:41 this 8:42 by also don't wanna see young kids to make mistakes be put in prison with hard 8:46 prisoners and I think 8:48 I think he when you talk to evangelical Christians and conserve social 8:52 conservatives 8:53 you ask them that question would you rather see your your teenager in your 8:56 church get counseling 8:57 or incarceration almost there but I'll answer counseling but when California 9:01 loosens as laws 9:03 and comes into conflict with federal laws you side with California not the 9:07 fed's 9:07 yes alright social issues were sent around Paul court I am 100 percent 9:13 pro-life I believe abortion is taking the life 9:16 have an innocent human being close call senator where I come from out Northern 9:20 California when somebody says he's a libertarian 9:23 ninety-eight percent of the time he saying is a libertarian about that 9:27 my pro-choice keep the government out of the bedroom right 9:30 and so this is an unusual position in my experience for libertarian to take how 9:35 do you square that one up 9:36 what I would say is that there is a primary in fundamental role for 9:39 government 9:40 and the primary fundamental role for government is to stop aggression on one 9:43 individual against another individual 9:45 so the question comes down to when do you think someone's an individual 9:49 when do you think life begins and then I think you get more to the heart of the 9:52 matter is 9:53 the real debate is when does life begin and i think is you have that discussion 9:58 it becomes 9:59 I difficult I think to be flippant about it for example 10:03 you know I'm an ophthalmologist but I examine babies in the neonatal nursery 10:06 that can fit in the palm of my hand one-pound babies that are alive 10:10 I look in their eyes to check against a disease that can cause blindness that 10:14 can be treated now 10:16 but lets a week before they were you know ins inside the mother but 10:20 but they just didn't they don't exist they're not a life at that point 10:24 and so increasingly later on in just a shame people are somewhat horrified I 10:28 mean people for abide by this doctor Gosnell that was snapping the spinal 10:32 cords %uh them 10:33 they're horrified by people you know crushing this goal to get the baby out 10:36 you know alive baby injecting things into in the Killam 10:40 so I think many people towards the end like oh gosh yes not that much different 10:44 than the nursery how can I be that this is 10:46 just a woman's body in it that there isn't another individual there 10:50 but it's a tough debate and I think the republican party when I say 10:54 um that I wanna be a libertarian Republican it is also that will have 10:57 disagreements like this within the party in there will be people 11:00 if we leave the decisions more local to their jurisdiction I think we can have a 11:06 moreover diversity of opinion within the party within the country overturn roe 11:09 versus wade and send it back to the states 11:11 yeah I think no states would be a better better after this gay marriage Senator 11:15 Rand Paul 11:15 what I believe in the historical definition of marriage that being said 11:20 I'm not for limiting contracts between adults close quote 11:24 that sounds like me that's it's you I there's a reason sounds like yeah 11:28 and I think that that's the same issue you know and I think some people get 11:31 confused I stand with the founding fathers on this 11:34 %um Jefferson Franklin nobody ever talked about them in marriage 11:38 marriage was always a state issue in their day and that's the way it was 11:40 written within right a lot of things like that into the Federal Constitution 11:44 in fact not only issues like that we don't really involve crime issues have 11:48 crime were all state issues they they didn't I conceive other about four 11:51 different things that were federal crime under the Constitution 11:54 and nobody really conceived have all these things now anything anytime 11:58 there's 11:58 a terrible tragedy it's gonna be a federal law instead havel 12:02 want to go to state legislature cuz thats may be more appropriately where 12:05 this should be handled