Jonah Goldberg and Chris Stirewalt Discuss Ted Cruz Sharp Rise in the polls

JONAH GOLDBERG AND CHRIS STIREWALT DISCUSS TED CRUZ SHARP RISE IN THE POLLS TED CRUZ DOUBLES HIS POLL NUMBERS IN LESS THAN 4-WEEKS! Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus - Trump 25%, Cruz 23% 0:05 senator Ted Cruz though might be the real surprise this time he's doubled his 0:10 support in just four weeks he's now a 23 % which is within the margin of 0:15 error for the top spot Dr Ben Carson drops to third Senator Marco Rubio 0:19 surges to fourth Senator Rand Paul is next with Governor Jeb Bush seeming to 0:24 still lose some ground dropping a percentage point from a month ago 0:29 Jonah you say these numbers are not a real surprise to you why 0:33 well in part because we saw that ben Carson was sliding and that you know it 0:39 makes sense that a lot of those people would go to to Ted Cruz in part because 0:44 Ted Cruz is a pretty good standard bearer particularly in Iowa for the 0:47 conservative vote most of the votes going to trump are liberal a 0:51 self-described liberals and moderates and also Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have 0:56 had the best strategic patience of anybody on the republican side of the 1:00 field they understand the timing of these things the pacing of these things 1:04 and they they want to have their kick like a marathon when it matters as you 1:08 come up on the first votes and that's what's happening now cruises it's been 1:12 almost brilliant in his way of cultivating the right wing base of not 1:16 alienating Donald Trump and cultivate of stealing voters people like Rand Paul 1:21 and now been cars do you expect Jonah the donald Trump will remain up there 1:26 where he is sort of almost stratospheric numbers 25% right now or if candidates 1:33 start to drop out of the race are they going to go other places 1:37 yeah my suspicion is that at least some polls are going to start showing Ted 1:41 Cruz is the front-runner in Iowa it happened for ben Carson most of the Iowa 1:46 Republican electorate is not supporting Donald Trump and we know from Donald 1:50 Trump's past is any time he is threatened or seen as a as not the 1:54 number one guy and not the alpha dog not the winner he kind of loses his cool and 1:58 goes on the attack will be very interesting to see him attack Ted Cruz 2:02 because Ted Cruz is the kind of guy who swims across the moat with a knife in 2:06 his teeth and he knows how to fight back 0:00 bosnia's debutante Paula Saturday how are you see a good day to you 0:04 Bonjour what's going on here with tech Cruces doubled his support in a month so 0:10 Ted Cruz was sort of out hovering over the deep in the republican presidential 0:15 race he had a lot of dough he had a lot of favorables among very conservative 0:19 voters but it hadn't happened the thing had happened and you may have just seen 0:25 the thing happen which is when we look at this poll we see Ted Cruz has 0:29 tremendous support he has he had does the best among self-identified very 0:34 conservative voters among Christian evangelicals and among self-identified 0:38 Tea Party advocates are members those are people you want to be doing well 0:42 west to win in iowa and he is doing very well with him he's also doing very well 0:47 with women and that is contrasted against front-runner donald Trump who 0:51 does very well with men he does very well with self-described liberal 0:54 self-described moderates and among voters who lack college degrees so you 0:59 have two different electorates in iowa and one of them is going all-in for Ted 1:04 Cruz ok you mention these numbers here go inside the numbers on cruise is what 1:08 we find tea party support 42% evangelical 27 very conservative 38% so 1:14 you're now seeing a bit of a shift now and we'll see you again what we eighty 1:17 days away now 75 check the calendar it's getting hot Ted Cruz in donald Trump 1:23 have played nice with one another so far what does that change that changes 1:30 whenever donald Trump decides that this is an existential threat when he feels 1:34 like he's got no choice but to start insulting Ted Cruz and start attacking 1:37 him that is presumably when he'll do it cuz that's what politicians do they 1:41 attack when they feel they need to attack and we assume that will see that 1:45 the better question is this Donald Trump was very successful in humiliating 1:49 belittling ben Carson attacked him and then in good timing for Trump national 1:55 security focus came in and really hurt Carson you see in this poll you see in 1:58 our poll nationally Ted Cruz is gonna be a much tougher out and much tougher to 2:02 take down for Donald Trump because crews is not just a guy who was top of his 2:07 class at Harvard Law School and a great national debating champion but also this 2:11 guy who's 2:12 been through the hurly-burly of politics for a long time and when Trump swings at 2:16 him I would imagine crews gonna be ready to swap ok I