#319 Subho Halder: Why Traditional App Security Fails in the Age of AI

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AI is changing how software is built, but it is also quietly breaking how security works.

In this episode of Eye on AI, host Craig Smith sits down with Subho Halder, co-founder and CEO of Appknox, to unpack a growing and largely invisible risk. AI-powered mobile apps that look safe but are not.

Subho explains how the explosion of ChatGPT-style app wrappers, agentic AI, and rapid app creation has transformed software from static code into living systems, and why traditional security models no longer hold up. From fake AI apps harvesting personal data to AI agents lowering the barrier for attackers, this conversation explores the real-world consequences of AI at scale.

You will also hear why trust has become a core security metric, how app stores struggle to detect malicious behavior, and why developer burnout is rising as AI-generated code shifts risk downstream instead of removing it.

This episode is essential listening for founders, developers, security leaders, and anyone building or relying on AI-powered applications.

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(00:00) Why Mobile Apps Became a Massive Trust and Security Risk

(02:45) Subho’s Journey and the Birth of AppNox

(06:17) Fake AI Apps, Malicious Wrappers, and Silent Data Theft

(11:03) How Fake Apps Slip Past App Store Reviews

(15:26) The Data Harvesting Business Model Behind Fake Apps

(17:11) AI for Security vs Security for AI

(22:16) Why Trust Is Becoming a Measurable AI Performance Metric

(26:20) User Intent, Data Control, and Minimum Data Sharing

(31:10) Trust, Governments, and Why Where AI Lives Matters

(35:40) What AppNox Found in Retail App Security Audits

(39:16) How AppNox Protects Apps at Scale

(42:05) The Future of Security