This week Marty, Tim, Gavin, and Andrew talk about Bill C71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms. Otherwise known as don’t worry we’re only coming for some of your guns today, we’ll come for the rest later.
IntroHello to all you patriots out there in podcast land and welcome to Episode 125 of Canadian Patriot Podcast, the number one LIVE podcast in Canada. Recorded Monday March 26, 2018.
Gavin - a business owner, gun enthusiast, hunter, atheist & CCFR Field Officer
Marty - Hunter and Sport Shooter in rural southern Ontario
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Andrew - I’m a recovering librarian, competitive shooter, and firearms instructor at Ragnarok Tactical
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C-71 Andrew’s Predictions Recap “Enhanced” background checks Increased license scrutiny at time of issue, renewal, and for each purchase More authority delegated to RCMP to classify firearms Return to paper Authorization to Transport Jumping the shark BAN AR15s move all semi-autos to restricted The BillFirearms Legislation to Make Communities Safer
BILL C-71
http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-71/first-reading
Commentary
Concerns Regarding the New 12(9) Class of Licence, Micheal Loberg
The CZ and SAN rifles were previously non-restricted until the RCMP unilaterally declared them to be prohibited. The Conservative government responded to citizen outrage and (among other things) amended the "Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited, Restricted or Non-Restricted" to force these firearms back to being non-restricted by regulation (the “Non-restricted Amendment”).
Bill C-71 will remove the Non-restricted Amendment, putting the CZ and SAN rifles back into the prohibited category.
Bill C-71 also creates “grandfathering” provisions for these specific rifles. In particular:
The CZ rifles listed in the new section 12(11) of the Firearms Act will be grandfathered by a new class of prohibited licence under section 12(10) of the Firearms Act (the “12(10) Licence”). The SAN rifles listed in the new section 12(14) of the Firearms Act will be grandfathered by a new class of prohibited licence under section 12(13) of the Firearms Act (the “12(13) Licence”). Both the 12(10) Licence and the 12(13) Licence categories of firearms are not expressly prohibited from being granted ATTs for shooting purposes, however whether or not the CFOs will issue ATTs for these firearms as a matter of their discretion remains to be seen.As a separate matter, and it is a separate matter from the CZ and SAN rifles treatment, a new “mystery” class of prohibited licence is created under section 12(9) of the Firearms Act (the “12(9) Licence”). This class of licence authorizes an individual to possess prohibited firearms of a “prescribed class” under certain conditions, but nowhere is it yet disclosed as to what is going to be written into that “prescribed class” by way of future regulation.
Because the newly-created 12(9) Licence class is unrelated to the other amendments to the Firearms Act or the firearms specifically dealt with by these amendments, the fact that it exists is clear evidence of an intention that the RCMP and the government have the ability to grandfather further classes of newly-prohibited firearms.
As to the ATTs for the affected guns, under the proposed amendments:
Restricted-class ATTs for target shooting are still automatic under section 19(2.1); Prohibited-class 12(6.1) firearms (short and small pistols) for target shooting are automatic under section 19(2.3); Other prohibited-class firearms are the subject of discretionary ATTs under section 19(1), modified by subsections 1.1 and 2 as follows: Subsections 1.1 requires that (subject to an exception) if a discretionary ATT is granted for target shooting purposes for any prohibited firearms, it must include all ranges in the province, a “whole province” requirement. The exception is for 12(9), 12(10) and 12(13) licences, which are excluded from this whole province requirement; Subsection 2 eliminates target shooting as an option for an ATT for prohibited firearms except for: Prohibited class 12(6.1) firearms (short and small pistols); and 12(9), 12(10) and 12(13) licences.Accordingly, CZ and SAN rifles can notionally still be the subject of discretionary ATTs. Whether or not ATT’s will actually be granted remains to be seen.
Prohibited class 12(6.1) firearms will continue to be legal for, and ATTs issued regarding, target shooting.
This leaves the newly-created 12(9) Licence class, which being in respect of an unknown and potentially undecided list of prohibited-class firearms, may have a discretionary ATT issued for target shooting, but without the automatic “whole province” requirement.
Unfortunately, the Liberal government and the RCMP have not disclosed to us what it is that they intend to newly make into a prohibited-class of firearm, so as to populate this newly created 12(9) Licence class.
(((MEDIA))) commentary
Liberals' claim of 'steady increase' in gun crime rests on a 'drastic' comparison to a low-crime year
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gun-crime-goodale-canada-1.4585097
"Gun homicides are up by two-thirds" since 2013, Goodale warned — citing what sounds like a shocking explosion of violence.
That's because 2013 saw Canada's lowest rate of criminal homicides in 50 years, and the lowest rate of fatal shootings ever recorded by Statistics Canada.
In 2013, Canadians killed each other at the lowest rate since 1966 — 30 per cent below the average of the previous three decades. Statistics Canada's homicide report for 2013 clearly identifies it as a record-breaking year.
Federal gun control reforms don't go far enough, Quebec school shooting survivors say
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-gun-control-ottawa-1.4585087
Heidi Rathjen, a gun control activist and survivor of the 1989 Polytechnique massacre, said she felt "utter disappointment" after reviewing the proposed law, which she said offered "lots of concessions to the gun lobby."
"Our impression when we look at the details is that it was specifically designed to look like they're doing something, but to minimize the ire of the gun lobby as much as possible," Rathjen, a spokesperson for the gun control group Poly Remembers, told CBC Montreal's Homerun.
"Once you leave the store, you could sell them to anybody now and not leave a trace, which makes it really easy to feed into the black market," she said.
"We want sales to be recorded. We want police to have access to them, and we want private sales to be included."
NP View: How do you mess up good Canadian gun laws? Ask the Liberals
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view-how-do-you-mess-up-good-canadian-gun-laws-ask-the-liberals
The average annual number of homicides with rifle or shotgun for the full 10 years before the long-gun registry was scrapped was 37.3. The average annual number of homicides with rifle or shotgun for the first four years since it was scrapped, all of the figures so far available, is 37.75.
Alberta Liberal MLA David Swann releases statement on gun violence
https://www.albertaliberal.com/swann_gunviolence_18
Jumping the shark
Bill C-71: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing
https://calibremag.ca/bill-c-71-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/
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