On the day that Ian Blackford led a walk out of SNP MPs at PMQs in protest at the Westminster Brexit power grab Lesley spoke with Katrin Oddsdóttir, who features in Lesley's latest film in the Nation series.
Katrin was one of 25 members of the Constitution Council of Iceland, which drafted a new constitution for the country in 2011.
Katrin has been a political activist from early age, but became known in Iceland after delivering a radical political speech at mass protests in 2009 while still a law student. She now works as a human rights lawyer.
This week's recording is courtesy of the inimitable Al of Phantom Power. Cheers chum.