In this special episode, Natalia remembers the first time Nora and Natalia sat across the table to record. Catch what later became Cafeteria Christian and get introduced to Alter Guild, another podcast about faith and spirituality. Author and speaker Nora McInerny talks about finding spiritual connection through her husband's death with humor and honesty. Her pastor, Natalia Terfa talks about the ways that promises ground us in all moments of our lives. Listen. Love. Serve. Alter.