Amanda Dickson sits down with author Jane Clayson Johnson this week to talk about her new book Silent Souls Weeping, Depression, Sharing Stories Finding Hope. Many of you know Jane from the CBS Early Show, ABC or even KSL from years ago. In this podcast, Jane talks about the stigma that almost everyone with depression talks about. Jane also talks about what she calls "toxic perfectionism." She shares a powerful line from a writer in her book - "perfectionism plus depression is a loaded gun."